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  • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

    What I mean by this is, along with the “change variable’s name” when you highlight it, you should be able to also switch between “for all sprites” and “for this Sprite only.”
    This would be useful if you are trying to make the same variable with different sprites but you need them to be separate since you don’t already have them like that.
    Just deleting them would mess up all the previous coding.

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    @011830-0a42ef84

    Are you referring to this tool on Turbowarp? It allows you to use another variable to replace the selected variable in the current sprite only.

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    • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

      @011830-0a42ef84

      Are you referring to this tool on Turbowarp? It allows you to use another variable to replace the selected variable in the current sprite only.

      43715d8c-3c83-4c53-a5dd-8a9fd9153c00-image.png

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      @info-creaticode How do you get to that?

      Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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      • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

        @info-creaticode How do you get to that?

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        @011830-0a42ef84
        “Developer tools:”?

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        • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

          @info-creaticode How do you get to that?

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          @011830-0a42ef84

          On Turbowarp, you can right-click a variable in the block palette to open this dialog box. On CreatiCode, we don’t have it yet. We are researching if this is the best solution, or if we can do better.

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          • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

            @011830-0a42ef84

            On Turbowarp, you can right-click a variable in the block palette to open this dialog box. On CreatiCode, we don’t have it yet. We are researching if this is the best solution, or if we can do better.

            475c7719-f4d2-4a36-90b1-92c29bcd062b-image.png

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            @info-creaticode I don’t think I can add that extension, but I would appreciate it if you could do this when you can.

            Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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            • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

              @011830-0a42ef84

              Are you referring to this tool on Turbowarp? It allows you to use another variable to replace the selected variable in the current sprite only.

              43715d8c-3c83-4c53-a5dd-8a9fd9153c00-image.png

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              @info-creaticode Not quite. I mean where you right click ang get an option “switch to for this sprite only”

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              • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                @info-creaticode Not quite. I mean where you right click ang get an option “switch to for this sprite only”

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                @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56

                as @Tyller_ pointed out, when you request to change a variable’s scope from shared to “this sprite only”, it is not clear what to do with blocks using this variable in other sprites. Some user might want to delete those blocks, some may want to keep them but using a separate shared variable.

                It is much cleaner to do it in a 2-step approach:

                1. create a new variable for this sprite only
                2. swap the existing variable to use this new variable (this is the dialog box from Turbowarp that I showed above)

                Would you agree?

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                • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

                  @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56

                  as @Tyller_ pointed out, when you request to change a variable’s scope from shared to “this sprite only”, it is not clear what to do with blocks using this variable in other sprites. Some user might want to delete those blocks, some may want to keep them but using a separate shared variable.

                  It is much cleaner to do it in a 2-step approach:

                  1. create a new variable for this sprite only
                  2. swap the existing variable to use this new variable (this is the dialog box from Turbowarp that I showed above)

                  Would you agree?

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                  wrote on last edited by mod.squadacademy
                  #16

                  @info-creaticode No, I don’t entirely agree. There’s a video by griffpatch called The Variable Hack which goes into detail on this subject.

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                  • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                    @info-creaticode No, I don’t entirely agree. There’s a video by griffpatch called The Variable Hack which goes into detail on this subject.

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                    wrote on last edited by info-creaticode
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                    @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 said in Add and option to change variables' belonging:

                    griffpatch called The Variable Hack

                    That video is suggesting exactly what I’m suggesting: create a new variable for this sprite itself and then use it to swap out the old shared variable. So which part you are not agreeing?

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                    • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

                      @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 said in Add and option to change variables' belonging:

                      griffpatch called The Variable Hack

                      That video is suggesting exactly what I’m suggesting: create a new variable for this sprite itself and then use it to swap out the old shared variable. So which part you are not agreeing?

                      c0120b92-8c98-47c9-b5c9-b68c6915b533-image.png

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                      #18

                      @info-creaticode That is still a handy feature. I personally am not against the feature entirely. I’m just also a fan of the convert to feature (as also mentioned in the video).
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                      As for what to do with the blocks in other sprites for the same variable, messages like this appear if you try to convert a variable with blocks in other sprites:
                      593d2b5e-e55d-4b17-9f8d-b0ce0c38ce96-image.png
                      What I don’t agree on is that the method of switching variables replaces the method of converting variables. Personally, I think both methods are worth including. Both have their uses. Even better is to add a third way to change this:
                      873a9792-9a06-4b9b-828a-d33b5439d102-image.png

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                      • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                        @info-creaticode That is still a handy feature. I personally am not against the feature entirely. I’m just also a fan of the convert to feature (as also mentioned in the video).
                        f926e1a7-e064-49c6-a6c8-0e0142a325c6-image.png
                        As for what to do with the blocks in other sprites for the same variable, messages like this appear if you try to convert a variable with blocks in other sprites:
                        593d2b5e-e55d-4b17-9f8d-b0ce0c38ce96-image.png
                        What I don’t agree on is that the method of switching variables replaces the method of converting variables. Personally, I think both methods are worth including. Both have their uses. Even better is to add a third way to change this:
                        873a9792-9a06-4b9b-828a-d33b5439d102-image.png

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                        @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56

                        Thank you for clarifying. We will be supporting add-ons (Scratch version or Turbowarp version), so this feature will be supported when that happens.

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                        • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

                          @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56

                          Thank you for clarifying. We will be supporting add-ons (Scratch version or Turbowarp version), so this feature will be supported when that happens.

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                          @info-creaticode I’ve written a Turbowarp extension a while ago, all it does though is just give “pi” as a variable block for 3.14… From what you’re saying, would that hypothetically work with CreatiCode?

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                          • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

                            @info-creaticode I’ve written a Turbowarp extension a while ago, all it does though is just give “pi” as a variable block for 3.14… From what you’re saying, would that hypothetically work with CreatiCode?

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                            @jeffreyrb03-gmail

                            We are still doing research on that.

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                            • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

                              @jeffreyrb03-gmail

                              We are still doing research on that.

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                              @info-creaticode Got it. My extension is at https://github.com/Jeffreymaniac/Turbowarp-Extensions and it’s pretty simple. I’m not sure if it still works though because I made it in like 2021

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                              • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

                                @info-creaticode Got it. My extension is at https://github.com/Jeffreymaniac/Turbowarp-Extensions and it’s pretty simple. I’m not sure if it still works though because I made it in like 2021

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                                @jeffreyrb03-gmail Your extension seems to still work. Do you often make Turbowarp extensions, or just had a go at it once or twice?

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                                • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                                  @jeffreyrb03-gmail Your extension seems to still work. Do you often make Turbowarp extensions, or just had a go at it once or twice?

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                                  @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 I havent made one since 2022. I just know JavaScript and its different forms by studying them, like for scratch extensions and nodeJS

                                  #LLJW
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                                  • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

                                    @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 I havent made one since 2022. I just know JavaScript and its different forms by studying them, like for scratch extensions and nodeJS

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                                    @jeffreyrb03-gmail Okay, cool. Well, if you ever make more, please let us know!

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                                    • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                                      @jeffreyrb03-gmail Okay, cool. Well, if you ever make more, please let us know!

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                                      @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 Sure, also, I don’t plan on making any as I don’t use turbowarp anymore, but if you want I can make an extension for you. Just tell me what blocks you want and what functionality you want and I can probably get it done.

                                      #LLJW
                                      <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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                                      • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

                                        @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 Sure, also, I don’t plan on making any as I don’t use turbowarp anymore, but if you want I can make an extension for you. Just tell me what blocks you want and what functionality you want and I can probably get it done.

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                                        @jeffreyrb03-gmail We’ll let you know if we think of something. We teach kids how to use not only Scratch, but advanced Scratch Techniques and Mods of Scratch, such as Turbowarp, Gandi IDE, Penguinmod…etc.
                                        On our website is a list of mods (CreatiCode isn’t on there yet. We may add it at some point). and their respective extension galleries. We get excited when we find a new orignial Scratch mod, extension, or extension gallery - hence why we asked.

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                                        • Mod. Squad TrainerM Mod. Squad Trainer

                                          @jeffreyrb03-gmail We’ll let you know if we think of something. We teach kids how to use not only Scratch, but advanced Scratch Techniques and Mods of Scratch, such as Turbowarp, Gandi IDE, Penguinmod…etc.
                                          On our website is a list of mods (CreatiCode isn’t on there yet. We may add it at some point). and their respective extension galleries. We get excited when we find a new orignial Scratch mod, extension, or extension gallery - hence why we asked.

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                                          @mod-squadacademy-1bc96c56 Ok! I appreciate the offer and I’m gonna start making turbowarp mods again.

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