Are weapons allowed in Creaticode?

[The_True_Odst]

@106809nes Would the given picture work?

[Lilly-123]

It looks really realistic!!!
Make it a bit more roundish and cartoony, and it won’t be as realistic!

[The_True_Odst]

Would this work?

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@011830-0a42ef84 weapons are completely fine, but I think you should make a disclaimer for it. CreatiCode seems to be fine with horror if there’s a disclaimer for it, so the same should apply to weapons. Thats a pretty cool thing tho!

[Black Cat]

@jeffreyrb03-gmail Meh

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@mathew139616-10db496a wdym? Its just a gun. Guns are cool (not in real life when theyre used to hurt people tho)

[The_True_Odst]

@jeffreyrb03-gmail Yes, I would also assume so. Thank you

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@011830-0a42ef84 youre welcome! When youre unsure of how appropriate something is, here is what Id do: rule out anything like nude or curse words or prejudice or phobias, and if its slightly dark, like guns or horror, then put a disclaimer. Basically just common sense

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail said in Are weapons allowed in Creaticode?:

@011830-0a42ef84 weapons are completely fine, but I think you should make a disclaimer for it. CreatiCode seems to be fine with horror if there’s a disclaimer for it, so the same should apply to weapons. Thats a pretty cool thing tho!

False. Realistic guns can result in PTSD and can hurt some kids who have trauma with gunshots from past memory. Keep it unrealistic.

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@011830-0a42ef84 said in Are weapons allowed in Creaticode?:

Would this work?

Yes this should be fine.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes got it, but the disclaimer part is right tho

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
Yes. Disclaimers should be added that guns are in the game.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes its so frustrating how CreatiCode is somehow more lenient than Scratch on some rules and then stricter on others, because it’s for K12. I understand CreatiCode isn’t Scratch, but still, very annoying.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes like I could probably find a project with hyper realistic guns and blood within 3-5 minutes on Scratch rn

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
Oh yeah they’re freakishly easy to find.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes @106809nes I don’t think CreatiCode should be and/or advertise itself as K-12/for kids, because a lot of children aren’t technically literate enough to know how to use half the blocks anyways, and younger kids I doubt are using this site at all. It’s more like for teenagers like me that just found Scratch but with superpowers and x1000 better. They say it’s for use in classrooms and stuff like that but is it really? I feel like it’d be wayyyy easier for say a 1st grade math teacher to just use a green board and chalk to teach addition than to make a whole CreatiCode project to teach like one concept, share it with all of her students, and then have to show some how to use it afterwards because they’re too technically illiterate to press the green flag button or they accidentally clicked somewhere else.
Now I’m not saying that a kindergartener or something wouldn’t use Creaticode or find it useful, but I am saying that a lot of the people that Creaticode is advertised for probably aren’t using it because teachers nowadays just use the more commonly accessible big-name tools like Google Classroom and Kahoot to teach, and little kids should be monitored on the internet anyways because of the things they could see that could traumatize them, and CreatiCode I feel like isn’t that much of an educational tool so Creaticode doesn’t have to be so strict with such rules because it feels like they have to censor content that is deemed even a tiny bit offensive like a little bit of cleavage/shoulders or realistic guns. Meanwhile, schools use Scratch more than Creaticode, and they aren’t extremely strict with their inappropriate content policies. I mean it did backfire once because a couple school districts in the past have blocked Scratch due to its FNaF games, but my point still stands. Anyone can prove this with some searches on the Scratch website.
So, I think CreatiCode should really be a bit more tolerant when it comes to stuff like that, especially after the time I had to change 2 images that weren’t even NSFW or fan drawn.
I don’t mean to offend official Creaticode themselves if they see this, I was venting my frustration

[The_True_Odst]

I believe I could probably add a realism setting along with the disclaimer. Older kids like teenagers should be able to be more introduced in games like that since simplicity is not always likable

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@011830-0a42ef84
I would ask @info-creaticode about that.

[info-creaticode]

@jeffreyrb03-gmail

We do have young users like first-graders, so we need to accommodate them as well.

Though teenagers may be better at using AI and 3D features, many of our enhancements over MIT Scratch are specifically designed for young learners, such as the top blocks in the Motion category that would not require knowledge of coordinates, or running programs in “step by step” mode.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@info-creaticode true but I was just mad about the fact that I had to edit one of previous posts because they were considered too revealing. I understand and I’m still going to follow the rules but that was just at the moment I posted that sorry

[The_True_Odst]

@jeffreyrb03-gmail Would this work?
(I did this in 10 minutes, stickman is pretty hard to do in Creaticode, I won;t be done if I can still do this)
https://play.creaticode.com/projects/66ccd3628b1f19af4a24a773

[info-creaticode]

@011830-0a42ef84

These posts are very helpful discussion. We want to run a new idea with you guys:

We can allow the author of a project mark the project’s rating, such as minimum age level to play this project, similar to movie ratings.

Then, if a user chooses to set his/her age level, we can hide those projects rated above the user’s age level.

Does that sound like a reasonable solution?

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@info-creaticode yeah! I like that, sorta like what Roblox is doing. 18+ projects though still shouldn’t allow NSFW, just stuff like strong swearing

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
H A R D PASS

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes elaborate

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
use common sense.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes Ok, well they said a minimum age level for projects with things that might not be suitable for younger kids, like guns. Idk but I feel like swearing would be in there too for mature audiences since there’s an age level, and 18+ people can handle stuff like that, like with movie ratings.

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
Yes, BUT it’s creaticode. so no.

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@info-creaticode
Yes but they can easily bypass it and lie about their age.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes I don’t wanna argue about this since I disagree and the same points would just be made over and over, so lets just wait and hear it from them

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes ok good point, but kids lie about their age all the time, and what they see as a result of that is their fault

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@106809nes I’ve lied about my age when I was younger on the internet and definitely saw things a kid shouldn’t but that’s not really important because it’s their curiosity. A kid should be able to be curious and satisfy that curiosity, but those kids just have to know what they see could traumatize them

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@info-creaticode back to your point CreatiCode, I like the idea!

[info-creaticode]

@jeffreyrb03-gmail

There are ways to test if a user is as old as they claim, such as random math questions. We can add such guardrails to prevent users that are too young.

[jeffreyrb03-gmail]

@info-creaticode that’s a good idea, but they have to be like a word problem that can’t easily be googled or done with a calculator

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@jeffreyrb03-gmail
Was abt to say this.

[The_True_Odst]

@106809nes said in Are weapons allowed in Creaticode?:

@info-creaticode
Yes but they can easily bypass it and lie about their age.

I lie too, but mainly for safety reasons. Stating your age on a game by a random person could cause a problem, especially since it is online.

[The_True_Odst]

@info-creaticode Yes, but then it could very well just turn into a math game. Many people could leave because of it
Edit1: They could also search up the answer to the problem

[info-creaticode]

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Looks like this feature is a bit too complicated. We’ll keep the strict requirements for now until we find a better solution.