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  • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

    @jeffreyrb03-gmail I don’t have the exact words to make a counter-argument; your argument does not make much sense. I’m not saying that I would rather choose AI than people’s creations, but AI images look more fluent and creative than what I or other people may be able to create. They don’t go simplistic, they go in a manner that can “wow” the viewer by using a fluent and flowing method of creating.

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    @011830-0a42ef84 But the thing is, AI images aren’t creative. You didn’t create it, you just made a prompt which is very easy to do. In fact, AI images are just soulless and non-creative because of how they aren’t human-made and they actually plagarize because of how they take internet images (like a picture of a cat) and some other things, and then mash it up together to follow your prompt. I don’t think anyone but like naive children will go like “wow” whenever they see an AI image.
    Like look at this nonsense:
    41c09640-24e8-4941-a5ee-69135e371880-image.png
    Ik it wasn’t made with Bing or whatever but this is the stuff that comes to mind when I think “AI images” and all of the ones degenerates make of non-existent “beautiful” women.

    #LLJW
    <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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    • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

      @011830-0a42ef84 But the thing is, AI images aren’t creative. You didn’t create it, you just made a prompt which is very easy to do. In fact, AI images are just soulless and non-creative because of how they aren’t human-made and they actually plagarize because of how they take internet images (like a picture of a cat) and some other things, and then mash it up together to follow your prompt. I don’t think anyone but like naive children will go like “wow” whenever they see an AI image.
      Like look at this nonsense:
      41c09640-24e8-4941-a5ee-69135e371880-image.png
      Ik it wasn’t made with Bing or whatever but this is the stuff that comes to mind when I think “AI images” and all of the ones degenerates make of non-existent “beautiful” women.

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      @011830-0a42ef84 and random stuff like this too:
      c4cd6c69-6e9d-40a8-8a19-f80b4c1521e2-image.png

      #LLJW
      <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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        @mathew139616-10db496a just Google “AI fails” or “bad AI images”

        #LLJW
        <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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        • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

          @011830-0a42ef84 But the thing is, AI images aren’t creative. You didn’t create it, you just made a prompt which is very easy to do. In fact, AI images are just soulless and non-creative because of how they aren’t human-made and they actually plagarize because of how they take internet images (like a picture of a cat) and some other things, and then mash it up together to follow your prompt. I don’t think anyone but like naive children will go like “wow” whenever they see an AI image.
          Like look at this nonsense:
          41c09640-24e8-4941-a5ee-69135e371880-image.png
          Ik it wasn’t made with Bing or whatever but this is the stuff that comes to mind when I think “AI images” and all of the ones degenerates make of non-existent “beautiful” women.

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          @jeffreyrb03-gmail Yes but AI imagery requires specifics. You can’t just design one sentence and expect it to know what exactly you are talking about. You have to give almost a paragraph of details just to find what you are looking for. If it were me, I’d say AI imagery does help. Helps a lot

          Edit1: When I used Adobe, I wrote this to display a card: A card similar to the art style of “Exploding Kittens.” Can this card describe that picture of the card lets you see the first 3 cards in the deck? Please generate this on a black background, with a picture of a kitten on the card

          Edit2: sometimes, it thinks I’m meaning poker cards or something similar, so I have to say no letters, numbers, or symbols

          Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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          • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

            @jeffreyrb03-gmail I don’t have the exact words to make a counter-argument; your argument does not make much sense. I’m not saying that I would rather choose AI than people’s creations, but AI images look more fluent and creative than what I or other people may be able to create. They don’t go simplistic, they go in a manner that can “wow” the viewer by using a fluent and flowing method of creating.

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            @011830-0a42ef84 I know about prompts, I’ve used AI before. Writing a detailed sentence/paragraph isn’t that hard and if it is then maybe you should just draw/make the image you want yourself or study English better. It’s sort of common sense that AI never knows what you’re talking about so it’s common sense to be specific, and it takes very little effort.
            How can I enjoy “art” that is created with very little effort, steals from other artists, and isn’t even made by a living creature (except for the part where you write and ask it to make something)?

            @011830-0a42ef84 said in Using an AI other than CreatiCode if you can't find what you are looking for:

            AI images look more fluent and creative than what I or other people may be able to create

            I say that’s wrong because there is no creativity, AI images are just multiple internet images used either partially or as a whole (plagiarism) mashed up together to fit your prompt of what you asked the it to make. And the dictionary definition of “fluent” is “(of a person) able to express oneself easily and articulately”. First, AI isn’t a person, and it says “of a person”. Second, the expression part. Art is a form of human expression, and AI “art” can never be art for that reason. AI doesn’t always do it articulately, as I just showed you it makes pretty bad mistakes at times. AI also has a tendency to make things 3D and weird-looking and uncanny, even when you specifically ask for something 2D like anime or cartoony.

            #LLJW
            <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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            • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

              @011830-0a42ef84 I know about prompts, I’ve used AI before. Writing a detailed sentence/paragraph isn’t that hard and if it is then maybe you should just draw/make the image you want yourself or study English better. It’s sort of common sense that AI never knows what you’re talking about so it’s common sense to be specific, and it takes very little effort.
              How can I enjoy “art” that is created with very little effort, steals from other artists, and isn’t even made by a living creature (except for the part where you write and ask it to make something)?

              @011830-0a42ef84 said in Using an AI other than CreatiCode if you can't find what you are looking for:

              AI images look more fluent and creative than what I or other people may be able to create

              I say that’s wrong because there is no creativity, AI images are just multiple internet images used either partially or as a whole (plagiarism) mashed up together to fit your prompt of what you asked the it to make. And the dictionary definition of “fluent” is “(of a person) able to express oneself easily and articulately”. First, AI isn’t a person, and it says “of a person”. Second, the expression part. Art is a form of human expression, and AI “art” can never be art for that reason. AI doesn’t always do it articulately, as I just showed you it makes pretty bad mistakes at times. AI also has a tendency to make things 3D and weird-looking and uncanny, even when you specifically ask for something 2D like anime or cartoony.

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              @jeffreyrb03-gmail Yes, I agree this can happen on multiple types of Image AI, but many sites use different types of AI and each one has its own level of florid or fluentness

              Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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              • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

                @jeffreyrb03-gmail Yes, I agree this can happen on multiple types of Image AI, but many sites use different types of AI and each one has its own level of florid or fluentness

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                @011830-0a42ef84 Once again, it isn’t fluent or creative. And I know that different sites use different AIs and AI models, but the way they all work is they are fed with millions or hundreds of thousands of internet images, taken by photographers, drawn by artists, painted by painters, etc. And they all use that data in their art to some degree (varies by site I suppose), and don’t even credit the people that worked hard and made that art or the cameramen that took a picture. That is stealing/copying, no matter which way you put it.

                #LLJW
                <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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                • JaecadeJnightJ JaecadeJnight

                  @011830-0a42ef84 Once again, it isn’t fluent or creative. And I know that different sites use different AIs and AI models, but the way they all work is they are fed with millions or hundreds of thousands of internet images, taken by photographers, drawn by artists, painted by painters, etc. And they all use that data in their art to some degree (varies by site I suppose), and don’t even credit the people that worked hard and made that art or the cameramen that took a picture. That is stealing/copying, no matter which way you put it.

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                  @jeffreyrb03-gmail But there’s where you are wrong though. You are putting “fluent” and “creative” as fact instead of opinion. You are really just stating what you don’t like just because you think it’s bad. I’m saying the positive influence because of the effects it can have. It can look good, it can look bad.

                  Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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                  • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

                    @jeffreyrb03-gmail But there’s where you are wrong though. You are putting “fluent” and “creative” as fact instead of opinion. You are really just stating what you don’t like just because you think it’s bad. I’m saying the positive influence because of the effects it can have. It can look good, it can look bad.

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                    @011830-0a42ef84 no, I’m using their dictionary definitions, which are fact. I already explained that AI isn’t creative or fluent because it isn’t at all what those words mean and because it just plagiarizes basically. I understand and agree with you that it can also look good, but sometimes I would add to that because a lot of times it contains a mistake or more that even when you ask it again the AI cant fix it or makes another mistake. You are confusing “creative” and “fluent” for visually pleasing/looking good or pretty, since it looks good sometimes and depending on what you wrote. I guess I was biased a bit, but I will acknowledge that it can look good sometimes. But I don’t know about its “positive influence”.

                    Also sorry for the late response, I took a shower. also goodnight gtg

                    #LLJW
                    <span style="color:white;background-image:linear-gradient(to right, lightblue, navy)">My name is Jeff</span>

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                      I found out that adobe Image AI creator has limited searches if you don’t have the upgraded version. Don’t play around with it if you don’t have the upgraded version.

                      Edit: Canva’s image AI is also a good alternative, yet its AI is limited and the amount of detail text you can add is short. Here is the link:

                      https://www.canva.com/ai-image-generator/

                      Note: This is still if you can’t find anything that you prefer on CreatiCode’s image AI.

                      Edit2: note this site does not fully depict the images you want.

                      Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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                      • TheNicknameGovT TheNicknameGov

                        I found out that adobe Image AI creator has limited searches if you don’t have the upgraded version. Don’t play around with it if you don’t have the upgraded version.

                        Edit: Canva’s image AI is also a good alternative, yet its AI is limited and the amount of detail text you can add is short. Here is the link:

                        https://www.canva.com/ai-image-generator/

                        Note: This is still if you can’t find anything that you prefer on CreatiCode’s image AI.

                        Edit2: note this site does not fully depict the images you want.

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                        Hi everyone, this is an engaging topic, and it’s great to see a thoughtful and respectful debate from both sides.

                        From CreatiCode’s perspective, our main goal is to help K-12 students cultivate creativity and logical thinking through coding activities. One common challenge they face is finding or creating quality images that fit the story or game they’re building. Many students struggle with drawing, especially digitally, and often can’t afford professional images online. To address this, we provide AI image tools that allow them to generate or find high-quality backdrops and sprites for their projects.

                        Additionally, using these tools offers another key benefit: students can hone their AI prompting skills. Generating the perfect image for a project requires giving clear, detailed descriptions and refining prompts based on the results. These skills will be increasingly valuable in a future shaped by AI technology.

                        There are ongoing philosophical debates about whether AI-generated images infringe on artists’ copyrights or stifle creativity. While we don’t take a definitive stance on this matter, we ensure that all images produced with CreatiCode’s AI tools are fully licensed. Users retain complete copyright over these images, allowing them to use them in their CreatiCode projects without concern.

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                        • CreatiCodeI CreatiCode

                          Hi everyone, this is an engaging topic, and it’s great to see a thoughtful and respectful debate from both sides.

                          From CreatiCode’s perspective, our main goal is to help K-12 students cultivate creativity and logical thinking through coding activities. One common challenge they face is finding or creating quality images that fit the story or game they’re building. Many students struggle with drawing, especially digitally, and often can’t afford professional images online. To address this, we provide AI image tools that allow them to generate or find high-quality backdrops and sprites for their projects.

                          Additionally, using these tools offers another key benefit: students can hone their AI prompting skills. Generating the perfect image for a project requires giving clear, detailed descriptions and refining prompts based on the results. These skills will be increasingly valuable in a future shaped by AI technology.

                          There are ongoing philosophical debates about whether AI-generated images infringe on artists’ copyrights or stifle creativity. While we don’t take a definitive stance on this matter, we ensure that all images produced with CreatiCode’s AI tools are fully licensed. Users retain complete copyright over these images, allowing them to use them in their CreatiCode projects without concern.

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                          @info-creaticode Does this mean it is not recommended to use other sites for AI generated images?
                          If so, what if the match you wanted doesn’t show up on the CreatiCode AI gen site?

                          Please help all my projects are 3000+ blocks

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